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I thought Scott Moe was bad at his job but is he any different than Jag?
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Basing your premise on the political environment of 40+ years ago? Come on dude....
Toss in the BS line that they sold their soul to the Libs when ALL the policies they got thru the Libs were in line with NDP's progressive policies. It was the bloody opposite with the usual modern rightist claim that if you didn't get all 100% at once it was a total fail.
YES the NDP has moved significantly more to the center, it's my main objection with them.
But they, and I realize the world has changed, there are no pre-global economic ideas from days of old. Other than being a short sighted economic moron like Trump flailing with tariffs and duties and nineteenth century protectionist policies that will enrich his fellows in the short term, screw US competitiveness and labour in the long run, but fool the Illiterati by hiding taxes where they're not in your face..... it's a different game. Begun and played out by the same people.
You got improvements in pharma and dental, child care and worker benefits. They would've been foot dragged forever with a Liberal majority or denied and worsened by a Tory one. So give it up with the Joe Blow I'm a serious journalist cuz I can upload a video BS. The people have been dumbed down to the point many believe that these days, they can't even tell news from editorial.

The right has hijacked the entire conservative movement here and in the USA. The NDP has moved to the center where the majority of the vote is, and wish to claim that from the Liberals.
This is like the outcry that they'll consider removing the carbon tax. Not an abandonment of policy but a recognition that the rallying of the right with simplistic sloganism has poisoned that issue the name "carbon tax" is equal to "abortion" in polispeak. There's no idea of abandoning some sort of alternative that will penalize excessive carbon emissions.
Unlike the idiotic Tories who'd simply eliminate the existing tax and ignore climate change completely as it's not popular. Like Trump and his suggestion to stop reporting Covid cases and it would cease to be a crisis.
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Yup, I agree the right has slipped right into the abyss. It has become something so deranged at this point as to be a willing puppet of Russia and doesn't even need to be paid to do it. That is the devil we know and we need an exorcism. The liberals have been running the show with a mix of arrogance, indifference and incompetence. They needed to be dragged kicking and screaming by the NDP to even have some plan for covid and saving the economy and fighting a war in Ukraine. Meanwhile, inflation went thru the roof and the oil based economy collapsed and in a country like Canada that has always based its economy on resources just can't carry on like business as usual.

The cons are radicals that want to force the UK styled austerity to strip every last cent spent of social programs and then give it to the rich. The NDP has spent all their political capitol on reigning in the worst tendencies of the liberals but at the expense of fighting the right that has managed to elect a leader they are not going to overthrow for once and are not split save for the fringe PPC that has less support than the greens.

That leaves us with no champion on the left to fight an insurgent and revitalized right. Status quo presented by the liberals is going to be eaten for lunch at the next election. Had the liberals actual stood for something it may have been different. Instead we got 10$ a day daycare which the provinces are just going to use as a slush fund.

NDP need to put in the work to get national support but they can only do regional and only if the previous con government burnt everything to the ground 1st. Jag is no Jack but even Jack was never the PM and he had a vision of where he wanted to take the country that was better than the bloc and the liberals. Jags plan to out liberal the liberals is a doomed plan. He needs to be bold, concise and ruthless and I just don't see it.
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TLDR:



Singh has put all his eggs in one basket and sat on it. If flopped. People are hurting and don't give a dam about dental care when they can't afford groceries and rent.
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