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Canadians' health data at risk of being handed over to U.S. authorities, experts warn
Ensuring the sovereignty and security of Canadian health data



In BC we have built our software from the ground up and in house. No US access as required by law. However the software used to catalog, communicate and run platforms still use US software such as windows, Teams and outlook. We should be looking to the Germans and make such software open sourced to rule out breaches.


Open source software in German law

Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe From US Authorities
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and the old Campbell era people stored it on American servers and told us how the USA respects Canadian privacy laws.
sure, sure , every day, we know it's okay... to use a chant we used on bullshitters back when we were children.
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At no point was it stored on US servers. I can attest to that. That said there is a great deal more that can be done to secure our health data that is only now being seriously reviewed in the current political climate. I can't say the same for the other provinces however but they are all subject to the same federal law under the health act.
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Yea, Microsoft and Oracle don't give two shits about our laws.

They are essentially forcing, through licensing prices, customers to move towards cloud based solutions.

Oracle says that they will respect Alberta Privacy laws (that say Albertans data can't leave the province) but their only cloud based data centre is in Ontario. Microsoft says that our data is safe in it's cloud, but do we really know where that cloud infrastructure is located? Amazon just closed a data centre in Alberta, and moved everything to Toronto or Vancouver.

Besides, the entire Alberta tax database had firewall exceptions for US companies to access the data directly from several US based IP addresses. I'm sure those hooks are still in operation. Nothing sus at all.
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Nothing to do with security, but the latest example of that US not obeying Canadian law is Google.
They FIRED a female employee as soon as they found out she was pregnant and are off to Court claiming pregnancy is not a hyman right therefore labour laws are invaalid.
Can you believe this? Can you believe that in the USA they can legally fire you for getting pregnant?
https://nationalpost.com/news/google-ca ... cy-lawsuit
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testerone wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 2:24 pm Nothing to do with security, but the latest example of that US not obeying Canadian law is Google.
They FIRED a female employee as soon as they found out she was pregnant and are off to Court claiming pregnancy is not a hyman right therefore labour laws are invaalid.
Can you believe this? Can you believe that in the USA they can legally fire you for getting pregnant?
https://nationalpost.com/news/google-ca ... cy-lawsuit
Yes, I believe it. The US states mostly have zero workers rights. That's why they fight so hard against unions, so that they don't get more rights by accident.
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"In January 2024, due to changing business needs, Google Canada was forced to implement significant workforce reductions across various locations and divisions. Lilleyman’s role was among those impacted by this workforce reduction in Canada.” She was given two months’ notice."
Many Google employees lost their jobs.
Just because she is (was) pregnant does not guarantee her to keep her job and maternity benefits. Others lost their jobs and she was just one of that group.
Her using her pregnancy as reason for her termination is a red herring.
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